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Another Bad Newspaper Column

Enjoy...
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19802665&BRD=1379&PAG=461&dept...

These guys are from my home state of CT too, they suck.


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Just submitted a comment. Hopefully they post it...

i also left a comment. i told him i will burn his house down and murder his family

Underboss MMAfia

Head of the West Coast Family
2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

how long do they take to post comments?

Underboss MMAfia

Head of the West Coast Family
2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

Not sure... I've been checking back too...

this was my response

congratulations!

your factless research and slander of mma has increased your columns response totals by empassioned fans... way to promote website traffic. unfortunately, thats all i was able to pull from this article because i don't believe any actual resarch was done on the matter and its interpretation of ground technique is clearly coming from someone without a particularly good understanding of what goes on in an mma fight. i suppose i would applaud your efforts, in as much as i would give a 6 yr old a cookie for not missing the potty.

mine...

i'm sure you were expecting to hear us "bloodlusting" fans of MMA to call you all sorts of names. Please read these peoples comments and seriously reconsider your ignorant and biased views on MMA. I'm not asking you to become a fan of MMA at, as I have many friends who don't watch it. But they don't watch it because they deem it "too barbaric." they don't watch it because they don't like sports, period. But they understand these mixed martial artists are not out there to kill one another. Being a journalist as yourself i would have assumed you would have done your homework before writing a piece so wrong and backwards it's laughable and can not be taken seriously. Every article that you write from now on and have ever written can be taken with a grain of salt.

i read pramits. here is his:

I agree completely. i hate mma too.

pramit m.

Underboss MMAfia

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Geeze Pramit, what's up with that you hater!?!?!

iamphoenix wrote:

mine...

i read pramits. here is his:

I agree completely. i hate mma too.

pramit m.

Underboss MMAfia

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I was like..."noooooo" after I hit the "submit" button...oh well. time to close up shop here and start that other site I've been thinking of doing..."the hills" anyone?

none of our comments are up. maybe our total smack down of everything those guys said killed them.

Underboss MMAfia

Head of the West Coast Family
2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

i'm looking forward to seeing them signing up and discussing mma... but it will be like talking to a wall.

Underboss MMAfia

Head of the West Coast Family
2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

Meh... I got a little carried away:

Great job taking the cheap rout to get bunch of hits on your site – it worked, don’t you feel better?

It’s sad that you work for a newspaper however your commentary wasn’t centered on any measure of journalism. You made some very suspect claims about MMA being a ‘flavor of the week’ and not possessing any stars. While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, I certainly wonder by what standard you would measure that statement. You failed to mention (or more than likely didn’t bother to do any investigation) that MMA surpassed PPV buys for Boxing last year, not too bad for a bunch of no-named ‘flavors of the week’! You also failed to mention (or probably didn’t bother researching) that there has been in fact been one death in a sanctioned MMA fight (the UFC was established in 1993 which many consider the date in which MMA became popular). However over same time frame there have been several hundred deaths that have occurred in professional boxing as well as the hundred or so in football (just in the last 15 years). You also failed to mention (or bother researching) that not only the number, but the rate of traumatic head injury in MMA is far less than boxing, rugby or football. You also didn’t mention that the rate of significant injury to spines, necks and other joints being significantly higher in other sports. I suggest you two spend a few minutes researching next time. They have this wonderful new invention called the ‘Internet’ which can help even the laziest journalist become mildly educated – or shoot, head on down to an MMA gym and do real old fashion journalism next time! (What a novel concept – research!) Spend an hour working out with a master of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and you will have a real appreciation for ‘out classing your opponent’!

By the way, there are some outstanding books out there on MMA and dangers compared to other sports based on actual factual data. (Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence. – John Adams) One of several good books out there is called ‘Fighting for Acceptance: Mixed Martial Arts and Violence in American Society’. It actually uses real facts and researched information to back their opinions! Go figure!!

Nothing brings us all together like pathetic attempts at commentary by half-assed journalists.

So in other words you said what I did in an educated way?
EERS_1_Fan
I'm the Capo mess with me and I'll tell you where to go!

nice six.

Underboss MMAfia

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2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

I never did the whole "Greco Roman" thing, but I wasn't aware there was subs in it? I wonder how many Hedo won that way?
"Greco-Roman wrestling, for one, is about strength and submissions;"
EERS_1_Fan
I'm the Capo mess with me and I'll tell you where to go!

GREAT catch, I skimmed right past that... there are no pins in Greco-Roman wrestling. The dude is a moron.

wow, what a biased ignorant column!

www.myspace.com/theklubking

Thanks for the reference Sixtus... Your letter to him was classic as well. Saracsm mixed with serious advice - awesome! Weird, there's still only 5 responses up.

Thanks! I doubt they will post it - too long. I noticed that the same 5 comments are up there from yesterday. I am guessing that they recieved so many they just locked it. He was probably hoping for a lot of, 'You a idiot!' type of posts. Instead they were disappointed with intelligent rebuttles pointing out what an uninformed imitation journalist those two guys are...

http://caen.theoffside.com/chris

Chris Boulay, a junior at Central Connecticut State University, where he majors in Journalism and minors in French, is a bit new to the French version of the beautiful game. A lifelong soccer fan, he is probably one of four or five SM Caen fans in the United States. He is pretty proud of being the editor of the only English language Caen blog in the world. He will laugh at all of the other Caen-related blogs that pop up next year at this time when Caen are the Ligue 1 champs.
Caen is just a stones throw from where some of his Dad’s family came from in Le département de l’Orne, Normandie.
He currently lives in Southern Connecticut in the summers and lives up at school in New Britain when doing the learning thing.

Other teams in the soccer world that he also has an undying love for (but usually disappoint him anyway) are SSC Napoli (where his Mom’s family came from), Liverpool FC (saw them play in CT a few years ago and has been hooked ever since) and the Italian and Lithuanian National Teams.

He can be contacted at cmbnd10[at]yahoo[dot]com.

Underboss MMAfia

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2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

haha I love the people on this forum. You're like pitbulls when it comes to defeding MMA. Phoenix get me this guys address its probably like a half hour away from me I'll RNC him out

http://spillingoverthetryline.wordpress.com/about/

his blog...

it looks like his blog doesn't post any comments either...

Underboss MMAfia

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2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

I know these responses were also submitted to him, and they were not posted either:

Mr. amateur writer, If you are going to give stale and flawed opinions about MMA, or anything else, don't start out with "sports fans appear to watch sporting events for shock value." Are you serious? I don't mean to be hard on you but speaking for others and printing your own ideas instead of facts isn't logical and turns readers off. Maybe interview a few experts first or try harder to sound less like a blogger with a chapped ass.
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I truly believe you know nothing about the sport of MMA. Maybe you should do more research before stating your one sided opinion. As a woman fan of the sport I am not “violence-craving”, “blood lusting” person, but a college educated, top executive at my firm. I am a fan because I am intrigued by the amount of knowledge and strength it takes to come out on top in a match. I wonder if you know that over 60% of all MMA fighters have as much if not more education than myself. I truly believe its people like your self who have no true knowledge of this highly skilled sport that ruin the good name of MMA. I would love to go into detail and school you in regards to what MMA is all about, but I believe you are a narrow-minded, one sided individual not open to learning what an exciting sport this is.

title.....you got paid for this?
It is a little hard making since of your article my man? There are many sports in the world, heck some people even try to call golf a sport, and Tiger is down for the count.
You want to jump on the bandwagon on reporters calling MMA barbaric, have you watched it? Have you researched it or is that just your opinion? Most people who try to look intelligent like to form a hypothesis rather than throw out opinions you know!
Do you know how many deaths have been caused from sanctioned MMA events? I do the answer is one. Can you tell me how many deaths there have been in the NFL in the same time span?
Let’s go with head injuries have you looked that up? There are thousands of ex NFL players suffering with them. How many mixed martial artists sustain them?
How about coming to www.fightticker.com and enlighten us with your knowledge since you seem to know so much about the subject.

EERS_1_Fan
I'm the Capo mess with me and I'll tell you where to go!

other than everyone pwning them why wouldn't they post everyone's comments? they knew the instant they post the article there would be feedback.did they think everyone would agree with them?

Underboss MMAfia

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2x Ultimate Challenge Champion

I got a little carried away too. I couldn't help but tell our misbehaving, prepubescent 20 year old a thing or two, and posting it to his blog (thanks for that one phoenix!):

"Rarely have I ever read an article published in a reputable newspaper by someone so uninformed about their source material. Shame on you sir for not doing your due diligence! It is an integral part of being a good journalist. I find it very hard to believe you’ve even watched the ‘upwards of 20 bouts over the past couple of years’ you claim. Maybe the highlights from 20 bouts, if that. Also, it’s quite obvious to your reader that you’ve never even sat through an entire MMA event if you’re going to say something like: “…the goal in a [MMA] sporting event is to concuss the other athlete and beat him within an inch of becoming a vegetable…” If you had, you’d realize that many times, the vast majority of fights end in a submission or decision. Flash knockouts and TKOs are probably less common in MMA than they are in boxing. Also, if it’s a sport that’s solely about ‘concuss[ing] the other athlete and beat[ing] him within an inch of becoming a vegetable’ you want, you need look no further than your ‘regimented and fair’ boxing. The object of that sport is to cause progressive or immediate brain damage through repeated hits to the head. You need only ask: Jimmy Doyle, Benny Paret, Davey Moore, Lyn James, Ulrich Regis, Mick Pinkney, Angelo Jacopucci, Willie Claasen, Johnny Owen, Asymin Mustapha, Duk-koo Kim, Kiko Bejines, Shawn Thomas, Gerardo Derbez, Jacob Morake, Steve Watt, Jean-Claude Vinci, Jean-Claude Vinci, Brian Baronet, David Thio, Rod Douglas, Patrick Stone, Michael Watson, Clive Skwebe, Patrick Diniso, Minoru Katsumata, Yasuji Hamakawa, Wangila Napunyi, or Wangila Napunyi to name just a few. But wait…most of them are dead due to brain injury, and all of them are dead because of boxing. Can you even name a single MMA fighter who has died? Sam Vasquez is the only man to ever die in regulated MMA, and at that because of the boxing element in the sport. Douglas Dedge the only other, but before there were rules and officials, and once again due to the boxing aspect of MMA. Bear in mind that boxing averages 10 deaths per year–and probably most of them are brain injury related. I’d be happy to cite the source on that one for you too… ;)"

nice sanity...that was an insane post...

Underboss MMAfia

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Our good buddy Josh Stein (aka IronSportMMA on this site) wrote a pretty strong letter to the editor on MMAOpinion.com. Check it out:

http://www.mmaopinion.com/2008/06/27/idiots-should-be-fired-another-lett...

I wrote them a letter too. It was short and sweet, but it said something like this. Everything he needed was on google, you may not like MMA, but I'm sure you like your news paper and stories like this has to hurt it. Before the next story about MMA is published have him read fighting for acceptance.
MMABrat
Soldier of MMAFia I am not the best but I try!

My comments on that story:

Great research guys!
What I find amazing is that since 1993, which is the "unregulated" birth of MMA there have been two deaths in the sport (one in the US). In the same time period 527 boxers have died (116 in the US). Maybe you might like to look into this impossibility? As for your completely incorrect view on officiating, it's total hogwash. MMA bouts are stopped immediately when any fighter safety concern arises. A boxer can suffer dozens of flash knockouts in one bout while a MMA fighter can only get dropped once.
Let's pretend for a moment that you have and understand the meaning of journalistic integrity and judge your piece based on a fair opinion of the sport.....Unfortunately that's not possible as your base assumptions are universally false so then obviously your opinion based on these falsehoods is worthless.
Other than that, GREAT JOB.
Procannonfodder, NEW PT RICHEY, FL

ProCannonFodder wrote:

My comments on that story:

Great research guys!
What I find amazing is that since 1993, which is the "unregulated" birth of MMA there have been two deaths in the sport (one in the US). In the same time period 527 boxers have died (116 in the US). Maybe you might like to look into this impossibility? As for your completely incorrect view on officiating, it's total hogwash. MMA bouts are stopped immediately when any fighter safety concern arises. A boxer can suffer dozens of flash knockouts in one bout while a MMA fighter can only get dropped once.
Let's pretend for a moment that you have and understand the meaning of journalistic integrity and judge your piece based on a fair opinion of the sport.....Unfortunately that's not possible as your base assumptions are universally false so then obviously your opinion based on these falsehoods is worthless.
Other than that, GREAT JOB.
Procannonfodder, NEW PT RICHEY, FL

Ouch. Not to call out fellow members of the "media" but most of these guys are sensitive little babies, which is probably why this publication cut off comments at 5 and why yahoo deleted numerous comments on the IFL vs. Fight Ticker article...

censorship is fun Barf!

Underboss MMAfia

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At least my comments made it on the story. I'm glad I had read this post first..

http://fightticker.com/node/1386

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