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Fight Ticker Exclusive: Q&A with Mark Cuban

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By Pramit Mohapatra

After years of airing MMA programming on his high-definition TV network HDNet, Mark Cuban jumped into the sport head-first in the fall of 2007. Cuban's HDNet Fights promoted two events in 2007 and has co-promoted a number of events with other promotions since then. In addition, HDNet Fights has an ambitious goal of televising at least 24 MMA events on HDNet this year in an attempt to make the network the destination for MMA fans.

Last week, Fight Ticker members were given the opportunity to post questions for Cuban. I chose the best ones and submitted them to him. Here are Cuban's responses, by email.

Fight Ticker: Why should fighters want to fight with your promotion and not the UFC?

Mark Cuban: Fighters can fight with whatever promotion is best for their career. No two fighters are in the same position. Our commitment is to do our best to help the fighter reach their personal and professional goals.

Fight Ticker: HDNet has a limited audience right now. Are you doing anything to increase the reach of your network (ie. negotiating with major cable companies, etc.)?

Cuban: We are in front of 66 [million] homes. So any MMA fan can find a way to get HDNet. We are closing in on 9 [million subscriptions], and growing very quickly. We certainly are not far behind Showtime and catching up fast. That said, we have such a strong base of MMA audience, our Friday night numbers beat the 'bigger' [networks] all the time.

The demand for HDNet is there and we are talking to the three cable companies that don't carry us. The great news is that the more MMA fans call and ask for HDNet, the sooner it will happen

Fight Ticker: With the recent spotlight on steroid abuse in professional athletics, will HDNet Fights do anything above and beyond the testing done by athletic commissions to combat abuse by fighters?

Cuban: I'm not sure yet.

Fight Ticker: What is the best testing plan to prevent steroid abuse by fighters?

Cuban: I don't know.

Fight Ticker: What improvements are you willing to offer the fighters in regards to better pay, health insurance, and maybe a retirement plan over what they currently have?

Cuban: It’s something we are working hard on. We are trying to find the best way to cover them in a manner that retains their ability to fight when and where they want.

Fight Ticker: What do you think about women being involved in MMA? Do you agree with it or disagree with it and why?

Cuban: I'm fine [with] it.

Fight Ticker: Do you fear that by adding your promotion to the mix and prying away a few established stars that you may be not only cheating MMA fans out of the matches they want to see (if all the fighters were signed under one promotion) but may also be diluting the field to the point where it could hurt the sport as a whole?

Cuban: Not at all. Pretty much everyone works [with] each other except for the UFC. It’s only been the last year where other promoters have been a threat, and HDNet has only been in the mix six months. Over an extended period of time, I think the UFC's PPV partners will push them to partner up in order to get the best fights. That is the UFC’s Achilles. If they can't maintain PPV buy levels and number of fights, they will have to make adjustments.

Fight Ticker: With HDNet signing up so many organizations, eg. the IFL and Strikeforce, to television contracts, is there a timetable in place for the merger of the best-of-the-best of these organizations? And, under which banner would such an organization make most sense: IFL, HDNet Fights, or another?

Cuban: Not that we would push for. Having all that entrepreneurial energy is great for MMA.

Fight Ticker: Right now, there appears to be more of an intent on HDNet Fights’ part to co-promote with other promotions and televise their events rather than focusing on your own promotion and your own events. Will we see more HDNet Fights events similar to the two last fall anytime soon?

Cuban: Only when we can put together amazing cards. We won't promote just to promote. We can be far more effective partnering and placing fighters on cards and helping fighters to build a fan base across promoters.

Fight Ticker: There have been reports of HDNet agreeing to televise Dream events this year. Is this a done deal?

Cuban: Can't comment.

Fight Ticker: Reports indicate that none of the Dream events will be aired live on HDNet. Do you think it is important for the growth of the sport and for your channel to be able to air events live?

Cuban: We have more free live events than every other network combined. We think that fans shouldn't have to pay 50 dollars plus every month to see great fights. Free is the future of MMA. Only the best three or four fights per year should be PPV

Fight Ticker: Are you in negotiations to televise the Hardcore Fighting Championships show based out of Canada or World Victory Road from Japan on HDNet in the near future?

Cuban: We talk to everyone. HDNet is the ultimate destination for MMA every weekend. If there is a great card, we want to televise it.

Fight Ticker: Are there any plans to have a channel that is devoted to MMA 24 hours a day, i.e., replays of classic fights, news, reality shows, live events, etc.?

Cuban: No.

Fight Ticker: You have recently suggested that the UFC is in violation of the Ali Reform Act for alleged anti-competitive practices. However, the Ali Act only applies to boxing and does not apply to MMA. Do you intend to hire lobbyists for the creation of a similar act for MMA or revise the Ali Reform Act to include MMA?

Cuban: MMA wasn't considered when the act was put in place. That doesn't mean it doesn't apply. Think of it as laws for VHS applying to DVD.

Fight Ticker: One common criticism of the UFC is that there is no coherent ranking system in place, meaning that there is no set system to determine who gets title shots. How will your promotion determine who the number one contender is?

Cuban: We will use the “Inside MMA” weekly rankings.

Fight Ticker: What are you going to do to preserve the long-term viability of MMA? Namely, what can be done to prevent MMA from suffering from boxing's current (and debilitating) "alphabet-soup" of titles and championships?

Cuban: The titles and championships stuff is nonsense. Everyone [with] half a brain knows they mean nothing beyond a way for the 'commissions' getting paid. We just will ignore them and focus on using “Inside MMA” as an objective source of rankings.

Fight Ticker: Given MMA's perceived similarities with fighting in general, do you feel HDNet Fights has a social responsibility in deterring street violence, and if so, how do you aim to accomplish this?

Cuban: Do [you] want us to stop third graders from picking their noses as well? We are not role models.

Fight Ticker: As you pointed out in your blog last week with regards to the WashingtonPost.com column by Leonard Shapiro, mainstream media doesn’t get the sport. What do you think is the biggest impediment to making MMA mainstream?

Cuban: Time. It’s still early in the marketing cycle. The UFC has only really been a viable business for a few years. This industry has a long way to go and a lot of changes to go through yet.

Fight Ticker: How do you intend to market HDNet Fights to gather new viewers beyond its current hardcore following?

Cuban: It reminds [me] of the questions I got in the early days of the internet. 'What are you going to do to promote the net so that more people come to broadcast.com?'

The net doesn't need promotion [and] neither does MMA. It’s a sport that's viral in nature. It will grow because its fun to watch. What does need to happen is for casual viewers to become better educated about the sport. That turns them into hardcore viewers. That is something we are building into our programming on weekends and when we do promote MMA, it’s not about knockouts, it’s promoting the strategy and athleticism involved.

Fight Ticker: Is CBS’ decision to televise EliteXC live on its network the landmark deal that will propel MMA into the mainstream? Why or why not?

Cuban: No. It’s a nice test to see how mainstream the sport has become. It will certainly add fans to the base, but it’s too early to be an inflection point.

Fight Ticker: You recently filed a lawsuit aimed at determining the status of Randy Couture’s contract with the UFC. What is the status of that lawsuit?

Cuban: Can't comment.

Fight Ticker: Is it true that you already have a contract with Couture in place which is effective immediately after Couture’s contract with the UFC ends?

Cuban: Can't comment.

Fight Ticker: Is Couture’s contract with you exclusive? And, is he signed only as a fighter or in multiple capacities (if multiple, what are those capacities)?

Cuban: Can't comment.

Fight Ticker: Kurt Angle is claiming in a number of reports that he and Couture are scheduled to participate in some sort of grappling match later this year. Would such a match be allowed by an HDNet Fight contract with Couture?

Cuban: They are trying to make it happen and it will be on HDNet.

Fight Ticker: What do you make of the Fedor situation, given that it appears that he may be a free agent and that he never actually signed a contract with M-1? Do you think Fedor is worth all the trouble to sign him?

Cuban: Yes. He is amazing. Kind of the Charles Barkley of MMA. Doesn't look like much, but he is a star. I have incredible respect for Fedor. He not only is a great fighter, but he stands by his principles and values. That alone is admirable.

Fight Ticker: News came out a while back that you are trying to pull Floyd Mayweather into the realm of MMA. Does his involvement with the WWE and his involvement with BET’s Iron Rings mean that he has gone in a different direction or is there still a possible joint venture between you two in the works?

Cuban: No. It just means he is getting his feet wet.

Fight Ticker: There are rumors you will be involved with a new MMA promotion involving Affliction and Golden Boy Promotions. Do you have any details on this venture? Would this involvement be through HDNet Fights or a through completely different entity?

Cuban: Nothing to comment on there.

(Photo of Mark Cuban courtesy of Timothy Greenfield-Sanders.)

Looks like his two favorite

Looks like his two favorite words are can't comment. Otherwise a very interesting interview.

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i can't comment on his no

i can't comment on his no comments

Fight Ticker: Kurt Angle is

Fight Ticker: Kurt Angle is claiming in a number of reports that he and Couture are scheduled to participate in some sort of grappling match later this year. Would such a match be allowed by an HDNet Fight contract with Couture?

Cuban: They are trying to make it happen and it will be on HDNet.

/sigh

The interesting thing about

The interesting thing about that to me is that he wouldn't comment on Couture having a contract or any negotiations with Cuban but he seems certain that that fight will be on HDNet. Seems like something is missing here or is it just me?

-The Captain

Good point TheCaptain. Cuban

Good point TheCaptain. Cuban clearly knows more than he's willing to say. I believe much of his hesitation to say more has to do with the legality of what's going on between him and Couture. But yes, that admission about the grappling match was a bit surprising...

yeah i think most of his 'no

yeah i think most of his 'no comments' were because of legal reasons than anything else

Yea I'm sure Pramit expected

Yea I'm sure Pramit expected those answers on some of the questions but you still have to ask them to try at least...

-The Captain

Great job Pramit and all of

Great job Pramit and all of those who came up with the questions. I wasn't super happy with Cuban's answer to street fighting and responsibility, but I did chuckle a bit at the nose picking comment. His not being role models thing reminded me of Barkely.

I also thought it was interesting how much he praised Fedor's character; seems Cuban's really taking a different approach from Dana White - probably strategic. He's really confident in his abilities to land Couture, Angle, Fedor, Mayweather, and so on.

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That's because Cuban knows

That's because Cuban knows how to run a professional with the spotlight on top stars and himself. You see him rip in to refs, other owners and even the league commish... but you NEVER see him talk the way Dana does about athletes who are competing. Dana needs to take some lessons imo now that his little UFC has matured in to something huge that carries a major spotlight...

How is HDnet in front of 66

How is HDnet in front of 66 million homes but only closing on 9 million subscriptions?

I believe he means to say

I believe he means to say that HDNet is deliverable to 66 million homes but only 9 million of those have actually chosen to subscribe.

see you didn't ask him any

see you didn't ask him any of my great questions....haha jk...

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He started the interview by

He started the interview by saying, "No offense, I'm not taking any questions from the guy that drew that stupid logo on your site."

(Inside joke for those of you new to the site...)

damn cuban! Underboss

damn cuban!

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I told Cuban to say

I told Cuban to say that.

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It's available in 66 million

It's available in 66 million homes, only 9 mill have subscribed. I'm one of them. Best channel ever, so much MMA I literally can't keep up. Crazy. War Cuban!

i heard people complaining

i heard people complaining about that last line. putting War in front of peoples names. a lot of people don't like it. i don't know what it means.

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I love the channel, I get

I love the channel, I get two HDNET channels one is solely movies.

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...wish i had hdnet.

...wish i had hdnet.

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Can you even get HDnet

Can you even get HDnet outside of the US?

Hmmm... That would have been

Hmmm... That would have been a nice question to ask Cuban...

Didn't think of it until

Didn't think of it until now. If you can't then it would really suck for those of us MMA fans that aren't in the US if he starts to pick up big names like Randy and Fedor. We may never get to see them except in grainy internet replays.

I'll put in the question

I'll put in the question with him and see what he says. It's a good one...

I bet you he says no

I bet you he says no comment.

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I dug a little myself and

I dug a little myself and found a list of all the providers here:

http://www.hd.net/subscribe.html

Grainy internet

Grainy internet replays....Nah you just have to know where to look. I have an amazing site I go to.

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